What happens if I was caught stealing for the second time? 49 Answers as of November 21, 2011

I was recently caught stealing and this will be my second offense. I was on probation, but I'm not anymore. Will I have to do time or can I just pay fees?

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Keyser Law Firm
Keyser Law Firm | Christopher W. Keyser
If you committed the second theft while still on probation for the first offense, then you will not only have to deal with the new theft offense but will also risk being sent to jail on the first theft case. If you were not on probation when you were charged with the second theft offense, you run no risk of jail from the first case but the new case will be treated harsher because it is a second offense of the same nature.
Answer Applies to: Minnesota
Replied: 11/21/2011
Law Offices of Kate Mesic, PA
Law Offices of Kate Mesic, PA | Kate L. Mesic
This depends on the amount that is involved. If your first case was a 2nd degree misdemeanor, and you now picked up another 2nd degree misdemeanor, than the state will charge it at a 1st, which is punishable by up to 1 year in jail and $1000.00 fine. As to the jail, that depends on how recent your prior charge was and the amount involved. The plea offer may vary from county to county.
Answer Applies to: Florida
Replied: 11/15/2011
Jacob P. Sartz IV., Attorney at Law
Jacob P. Sartz IV., Attorney at Law | Jacob Sartz
I'd recommend you retain a lawyer. Anyone charged with an offense is presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. If you cannot afford to retain a lawyer, the court may appoint you one at the public's expense. Speaking generally, as long as the alleged amount is relatively low, people charged with theft offenses with priors are charged with retail fraud 2nd, a misdemeanor, if convicted, punishable by up to year in jail, probation, fines, costs, restitution, or other sanctions at the discretion at the court. However, actual sentences for a plea or conviction vary widely depending on the court, whether there was a plea-bargain, the strength of a case, a person's prior history, or other factors. Further, the charges could be worse and certain fact patterns for theft offenses are actually charged as felonies (unarmed robbery, for example), depending on the circumstances. I'd recommend you retain a lawyer or request that the court appoint you a lawyer at the public's expense.
Answer Applies to: Michigan
Replied: 11/15/2011
Law Office of Eric Sterkenburg
Law Office of Eric Sterkenburg | Eric Sterkenburg
In California the law was just changed. If a person now gets three misdemeanors petty theft before the next is a felony. If the theft is not a petty theft but a grand theft then it could be filed as a felony or a misdemeanor. Knowing what you will be charged with and what the sentence would be if convicted is not possible to know under the facts that you gave.
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 11/14/2011
Law Office of Phillip Weiser
Law Office of Phillip Weiser | Phillip L. Weiser
The ultimate sentence will depend upon the judge you have. There can be as much as 12 months jail possible.
Answer Applies to: Kansas
Replied: 11/14/2011
Thomas J. Tomko Attorney At law
Thomas J. Tomko Attorney At law | Thomas J. Tomko
There are numerous types of theft charges, and your not giving details makes it dificult to predict. However, you should have an attorney represent you who will go over your particular charges, the possible defenses, and the expected outcome of a plea or conviction. You should address your questions to the attorney who will be familiar with your particular Court and Judge. I hope that this was helpful.
Answer Applies to: Michigan
Replied: 11/14/2011
Lisa Mulligan Law Offices, LLC
Lisa Mulligan Law Offices, LLC | Lisa Mulligan
I'm sorry to hear that you're facing this kind of problem. The second time you get caught stealing something, you can probably expect that the punishment will be worse than whatever you got the first time, unless there is a problem with the State's evidence against you or if you have a defense/good reason that you didn't have the first time around. Without knowing the value of the stolen items and the circumstances of the theft, it's hard to predict the charge and the potential punishment, so you should contact a local lawyer who has experience in handling this type of case.
Answer Applies to: Washington
Replied: 11/14/2011
The McDonnell Law Firm, PLLC
The McDonnell Law Firm, PLLC | Patrick J. McDonnell
That depends on the court and your attorney. Prior convictions are usually considered an aggravating factor when it comes to sentencing, but the specifics of the offense(s) also could matter.
Answer Applies to: New York
Replied: 11/11/2011
The Law Office of B. Elaine Jones
The Law Office of B. Elaine Jones | B. Elaine Jones
It depends on your prior record (ie. other criminal convictions besides the first theft. It also will depend on what you stole of course as well. Generally speaking, if it was along the same or similar items that you took you will most likely get probation again, court costs, fines and restitution. Obviously, you probably will get a better deal by hiring an attorney to represent you.
Answer Applies to: Florida
Replied: 11/11/2011
Kenyon Law Firm
Kenyon Law Firm | Todd Kenyon
The answer depends on the amount you allegedly stole and where the incident occurred. It is nice you were off of probation so there will not be a probation violation.
Answer Applies to: Minnesota
Replied: 11/10/2011
    John V Commons, Attorney at Law
    John V Commons, Attorney at Law | John Commons
    You have not provided enough information for me to be able to predict the final result. There are lots of factors a judge may consider in deciding what sentence is appropriate. The one thing I can say is that it is not likely that you will get off with only paying some fees. You need to hire a lawyer to assist you in determining your alternatives and what is in your best interest to do.
    Answer Applies to: Indiana
    Replied: 11/10/2011
    Edward  D. Dowling IV Attorney at Law
    Edward D. Dowling IV Attorney at Law | Edward D. Dowling IV
    I would need all the details of the facts to answer better, but generally sentencing is up to the judge, however the judge usually goes along with a negotiated plea bargain between the prosecutio0n and the defense attorney and the recommendation of the probation department. You should hire an attorney.
    Answer Applies to: New York
    Replied: 11/10/2011
    Law Office of Geoffrey M. Yaryan
    Law Office of Geoffrey M. Yaryan | Geoffrey M. Yaryan
    It can be filed as a felony, with all the consequences that flow from that.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 11/10/2011
    Dunnings Law Firm
    Dunnings Law Firm | Steven Dunnings
    If you were on probation at the time of the offense, you might be up for a charge of violating your probation.
    Answer Applies to: Michigan
    Replied: 11/10/2011
    Craig W. Elhart, P.C.
    Craig W. Elhart, P.C. | Craig Elhart
    It this is your second offense, upon conviction, the likelihood of you spending time in jail is increased.
    Answer Applies to: Michigan
    Replied: 11/10/2011
    Cynthia Henley, Lawyer
    Cynthia Henley, Lawyer | Cynthia Henley
    No way to answer that without a lot more information but it is obviously not good.
    Answer Applies to: Texas
    Replied: 11/10/2011
    The Law Office of Cindy Barton
    The Law Office of Cindy Barton | Cindy Barton
    It is probable that your penalties will be greater the second time than the first. The idea is that you are supposed to learn better the first time so there is not a second. If you didn't learn, they will try harder to teach you. Whether or not you do jail time depends on too many factors to explain here, but it is a pretty good bet.
    Answer Applies to: Utah
    Replied: 11/10/2011
    Timothy J. Thill P.C.
    Timothy J. Thill P.C. | Timothy J. Thill
    A lot depends on what you stole, and the circumstances under which you committed the crime. You already have been sentenced to probation once for the same offense, it is possible that you will end up doing some jail time, this time. Then again, you may get probation again, but with stricter conditions, like curfews or community service, as well as some counseling. You need to consult with counsel to get the best possible disposition possible.
    Answer Applies to: Illinois
    Replied: 11/10/2011
    Law Office of Jared Altman
    Law Office of Jared Altman | Jared Altman
    You didn't supply enough information for me to answer intelligently. But, it sounds like you're in big trouble this time.
    Answer Applies to: New York
    Replied: 11/10/2011
    Reza Athari & Associates, PLLC | Seth L. Reszko
    It depends. A number of factors go into determining whether you will get probation again. Of course, the first issue will be how the case gets negotiated and you accept a plea. Sometimes, the DA can agree to you obtaining probation again. You have the right to counsel of your choosing and if you are not eligible for the public defender, you should strongly consider hiring an attorney. Good luck.
    Answer Applies to: Nevada
    Replied: 11/10/2011
    Law Office of Richard Williams
    Law Office of Richard Williams | Richard Williams
    It is difficult to answer your question from the information provided. It would be highly possible that you may serve some substantial time on this one.
    Answer Applies to: Alabama
    Replied: 11/10/2011
    Michael Breczinski
    Michael Breczinski | Michael Breczinski
    That depends on the judge and the circumstances if you will have to spend time in the jail.
    Answer Applies to: Michigan
    Replied: 11/10/2011
    Mark Thiessen, Attorney at Law
    Mark Thiessen, Attorney at Law | Mark Thiessen
    Depends on the county, judge and DA. Also depends on how much and when your prior was. Both of your options are available in Harris County.
    Answer Applies to: Texas
    Replied: 11/10/2011
    Austin Legal Services, PLC
    Austin Legal Services, PLC | Jared Austin
    It depends on what you stole, how much it was worth, what location it was taken from, if any weapons or threat of force was used, etc. That could make the difference between a misdemeanor and a serious felony. If you have been charged, you need to seek counsel from a lawyer before agreeing to anything or pleading to anything.
    Answer Applies to: Michigan
    Replied: 11/10/2011
    Beaulier Law Office
    Beaulier Law Office | Maury Beaulier
    A theft offense can be very serious. A conviction would leave an indelible mark on your record and it can impact future employment and other opportunities. As a result, an aggressive defense is necessary. As a misdemeanor offense, a theft under $500 is punishable by up to 90 days in jail and a 41000 fine. Often if you have a clean record and/or viable defenses, you may be able to avoid a conviction with a Stay of Prosecution which upon completion of certain conditions, may result in a dismissal of the charge.
    Answer Applies to: Minnesota
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Jules N. Fiani, Attorney at Law
    Jules N. Fiani, Attorney at Law | Jules Fiani
    You will be placed on probation.
    Answer Applies to: Michigan
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Law Office of Edward J. Blum
    Law Office of Edward J. Blum | Edward J. Blum
    It depends, mostly on the value of the item(s) you allegedly stole.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Law Offices of John Carney
    Law Offices of John Carney | John Carney
    Shoplifting is a serious offense that cost taxpayers and stores billions of dollars a year. You were given a break and placed on probation, but you went right back to shoplifting. You are not a good decision maker. you have ruined your reputation and chances if getting a good job for the rest of your life for a few dollars. You are at risk for going to jail for 90 days, 6 months, or a year, depending on your lawyer, the prosecutor, the judge, and the city you are in. You should retain a good criminal lawyer, but I suppose you cannot afford the $5,000 that he would charge you. If you are stealing to support a drug addiction you should get into counseling and hope that the court will take that into consideration at sentencing. If you are young and impulsive and steal for the thrill of it you need to get a better hobby. If you are a professional shoplifter you need to find a better way to earn a living. If you steal because you are immature and do nor understand that it is not a good decision then you need to understand that you will get caught and you will eventually spend a year in jail. You can choose a life of crime, drugs, and prison, or you can get a good education, work hard, stay out of trouble, and find a career you love. The choice is yours, choose the latter. If that sounds harsh and critical then welcome to the real world. I told you what you need to hear, not what you might want to hear.
    Answer Applies to: New York
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Law Office of Jeff Yeh
    Law Office of Jeff Yeh | Jeff Yeh
    Petty theft with a prior can be filed as a felony.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Law Office of Charles J. Block
    Law Office of Charles J. Block | Charles J. Block
    More than likely you will just get fines and community service (which is mandatory under the statute) - however, it really depends on the Judge and how close in time your first offense was.
    Answer Applies to: New Jersey
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Gary Moore, Attorney at Law
    Gary Moore, Attorney at Law | Gary Moore
    You are getting into the range of going to jail this time.
    Answer Applies to: New Jersey
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Law Office of Ronald Aronds, LLC
    Law Office of Ronald Aronds, LLC | Ronald Aronds
    Each case is unique so it is impossible to say at this time. However, it is more likely that you would be facing jail time since this is a second offense.
    Answer Applies to: New Jersey
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Law Offices of Kenneth Wincorn P.C.
    Law Offices of Kenneth Wincorn P.C. | Kenneth Wincorn
    It depends on the level of the offense and the policy or the D.A. Call your attorney or us to discuss.
    Answer Applies to: Texas
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Andersen Law PLLC
    Andersen Law PLLC | Craig Andersen
    That will depend on the judge and prosecutor. Neither of them are going to be too happy to see you again on this kind of offense or any other. Still, jails are overcrowded so you may be sentenced to work crew in lieu of jail. Be sure to knock out the work crew hours as fast as possible because the alternative to work crew is jail.
    Answer Applies to: Washington
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Betts Legal Services
    Betts Legal Services | Shawn M. Betts
    That depends on if you have any other record, the amount stolen, and several other factors, which can vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
    Answer Applies to: Minnesota
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Klisz Law Office, PLLC
    Klisz Law Office, PLLC | Timothy J. Klisz
    Jail time is quite likely on a second offense. Your own lawyer could make this easier and possibly avoid jail in some courts.
    Answer Applies to: Michigan
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Law Office of Joe Dane
    Law Office of Joe Dane | Joe Dane
    The good news is that the law changed recently. It used to be with one prior conviction for theft, a new petty theft could be charged as a felony. Now it's 3 priors and your fourth can be a felony. At least you're only looking at a misdemeanor, assuming all they charge is the theft (instead of something worse like burglary). Are you looking at jail time? Potentially. The jails are overcrowded, so it may not be a long sentence or you could get an early release, or there may be an alternative to jail such as house arrest, community service, fines, etc. You'll definitely need a local criminal defense attorney to help you out and try to avoid jail.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Law & Mediation Office of Jeffrey L. Pollock, Esq.
    Law & Mediation Office of Jeffrey L. Pollock, Esq. | Jeffrey Lawrence Pollock
    Likely probation again, but it depends on the value of the stolen items and the rest of your record and your judge and whether you plead guilty, etc.
    Answer Applies to: Pennsylvania
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Freeborn Law Offices, P.S.
    Freeborn Law Offices, P.S. | Steve Freeborn
    Yes, you could do jail time; yes you could pay fines. The likelihood of both is greater because you apparently have a history.
    Answer Applies to: Washington
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Law Firm of Martin & Wallentine
    Law Firm of Martin & Wallentine | Jerry Lee Wallentine Jr.
    Generally a prosecutor gets more serious when dealing with a second or more theft. However, depending on the specific facts of your case, the prosecutor, your lawyer, the judge, and which jurisdiction you are in, probation may be a possibility. Also, I am assuming that the theft was for something valued less than $1,000 so it's a misdemeanor rather than a felony. Also, even misdemeanor theft amounts may be charged as felonies, depending on the number and and how long ago the priors were.
    Answer Applies to: Kansas
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    John Segelbaum, P.S.
    John Segelbaum, P.S. | John Segelbaum
    If you get convicted it is up to the judge what sentence to impose.
    Answer Applies to: Washington
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Law Office of Brendan M. Kelly
    Law Office of Brendan M. Kelly | Brendan M. Kelly
    A great deal of the punishment depends on your history, what was taken/recovered and the length between the former offense and the current one.
    Answer Applies to: Nebraska
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    The Law Offices of Jaime Cowan
    The Law Offices of Jaime Cowan | Jaime Cowan
    That will be the district attorney's decision and the judge
    Answer Applies to: Colorado
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Michael Edwards, Attorney at Law
    Michael Edwards, Attorney at Law | Michael Edwards
    The punishment or sentence will be up to the judge. Beware, because if you get convicted of this offense, the third offense will be a third degree felony, regardless of the value of the item stolen, so long as all three convictions are within 10 years of each-other. I recommend that you retain a competent defense attorney to help you with your case, to minimize the risk of jail. Good luck!
    Answer Applies to: Utah
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Law Offices of Paula Drake
    Law Offices of Paula Drake | Paula Drake
    If you served any time or were booked/released and given a day credit on the first case (and if that case was a petty theft conviction), then they can file a petty theft with prior (PC 666) on the second offense; this can be a felony or misdemeanor and if a misdemeanor it carries a one year maximum; if a felony it carries a maximum state prison sentence of 3 years. You could do jail time on a second conviction; you should consult an attorney early in the proceedings to get you the minimum charge with the minimum consequence. The consequence will depend on several factors (loss amount, age of the prior conviction, details of the prior conviction, details of the new case etc.) Each case is different, so get a consultation.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Law Office of Daniel K Martin
    Law Office of Daniel K Martin | Daniel K Martin
    This question cannot be completely answered for a couple of reasons. The primary reason is that the judge decides your fate and he or she probably doesn't even know what is going to happen yet. The other thing that affects the answer is the value of the thefts. A person who steals two candy bars is treated differently than a person who embezzles a million dollars. Assuming that the value was relatively low on both cases then I would say that you probably will not have to spend a lot of time in jail for this second offense. However you should never pick up another case of theft because these cases can affect your employment prospects and whether or not you are believed by anyone who learns of these cases. You should contact a lawyer because you are correct in assuming that the punishment increases with each new case.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Law Office of Martina Vigil
    Law Office of Martina Vigil | Martina A. Vigil
    It depends on the facts of your case. A second time offense for stealing will probably require higher fines and more community service if not jail time. You should speak to an attorney to discuss your options.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    Law Office of Richard Southard
    Law Office of Richard Southard | Richard C Southard
    It really depends on the prosecutor and judge. Depending on the county that this occurred in, I can see them seeking jail if you were already given probation on a similar offense. Best to consult with an experienced defense attorney in your county.
    Answer Applies to: New York
    Replied: 11/9/2011
    The Law Offices of Jason Chan
    The Law Offices of Jason Chan | Jason Chan
    It depends on what the charges are. Larceny is a much more serious crime with a jail penalty than shoplifting of a second offense.
    Answer Applies to: Massachusetts
    Replied: 11/9/2011
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