What can we do if my daughter is not given a fair pre trial? 44 Answers as of March 05, 2012
My daughter was arrested and appointed a public defender. The only response she/we have gotten from this person is to expect to stay in jail until the court date. My daughter was originally arrested on a drug charge. She missed 2 drug test which was a condition of her release from the original charge. On the court date last Fri, 01/27, she was put back in jail for missing the tests. She was in the hospital on the first test, and her husband refused to give her the money for gas and to pay for the 2nd one. yeah, he's a real jerk. We can show proof of the first and was actually told by the hospital that they would fax it to the pre-trial off. but never did. He himself told us the day she was put in the hosp, that he would get back in touch with her in 2/3 days. When my daughter tried to tell the judge that Fri, the pre-trial off lied. We don't have the money for a private lawyer. Where do we go from here?Free Case Evaluation by a Local Lawyer!
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Free Case Evaluation by a Local Lawyer: Click hereCynthia Henley, Lawyer | Cynthia Henley
She needs to cooperate with her appointed lawyer and work on her criminal case, which is the focus of the problem.
Answer Applies to: Texas
Replied: 3/5/2012
Michael Breczinski | Michael Breczinski
Get something from the Hospital and take it to the attorney and to the next court date for the judge.
Answer Applies to: Michigan
Replied: 2/13/2012
Harden Law Offices | Leonard D. Harden
You should try to talk to the public defender and if unhappy that person's supervisor. If still unhappy then borrow money to hire the best private lawyer in the area. Good luck.
Answer Applies to: New Hampshire
Replied: 2/8/2012
Edward D. Dowling IV Attorney at Law | Edward D. Dowling IV
You can ask the court to assign a different attorney if you can satisfy the judge that the current attorney is not representing her properly.
Answer Applies to: New York
Replied: 2/6/2012
Burdon and Merlitti | Adam Van Ho
It sounds like your daughter is in a tough spot. For starters, as the judges will tell you that appearing for court hearings takes priority over anyone other than major surgery. The judge would also tell you that she needs to make all required drug tests; otherwise, the court will assume that she is using, and that is why she skipped her drug tests. My suggestion is that if you and your daughter can not afford to hire an attorney, you may want to request that the court appoint either another public defender out of the same office or a private attorney to serve as a public defender. There are times when personality conflicts require that a new attorney be appointed, and this may be one of those times.
Answer Applies to: Ohio
Replied: 2/6/2012
Brucar & Yetter, P.C. | Wayne Brucar
Cooperate as fully as you can with her public defender. Please understand that answering this doesn't create an attorney/client relationship between us, and as hard as I try to answer your question well, it isn't legal advice. No matter how much information you put into a question, the answers you are going to get are still going to be vague. It is in your interest to contact a lawyer, most of whom will do a free consultation.
Answer Applies to: Illinois
Replied: 2/6/2012
Law Office of Peter F. Goldscheider | Peter Goldscheider
I am sorry but you have asked such case specific questions that this service is not equipped to answer. If you are dissatsified withe the public defender you will either need to hire a private attorney or have your daughter tell the judge he is not representing him properly. From your description though it may well be that she will need to work with her court appointed attorney the best she can.
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 2/6/2012
Law Offices of James H. Dippery, Jr. | James H. Dippery, Jr.
Yes, it is likely that daughter might stay in custody for awhile.? The court might reasonably suspect that she continues to be involved in drugs, since that is a reason people 'miss' drug test appointments, reasoning that if I don't test they won't find that I am dirty.? So, to 'dry her out' and keep her from drugs the court might reason that she should stay in for a bit.? Now, without giving more facts where unwanted eyes can see them, if she is on probation and has to test, she might be getting some added time for probation violations.? If she is in the Proposition 36 drug program she can't do any additional time for the offense, but while her continued status in the program is still up in the air she can remain in custody. Do not think badly of the Public Defender.? He/she has no reason to wish any harm or additional time to your daughter.? The attorney will work hard in your child's best interest.? Pay attention to advice given.?
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 2/3/2012
Palumbo and Kosofsky | Michael Palumbo
It is not the fault of the attorney that his client was remanded where, as here, a condition of her release was to take drug screening tests and she failed to comply. The reason for her failure to comply with the conditions for release is immaterial. So the advice "expect to stay in jail until the court date" is correct legal advice based on the facts and circumstances of the proceeding. It sounds like she has an excellent lawyer, as he appropriately advised her to comply with the terms of her conditional release and now that she violated same and was remanded has advised her the minimal period of her incarceration.
Answer Applies to: New York
Replied: 2/3/2012
Law Office of Phillip Weiser | Phillip L. Weiser
The public defender is your daughter's lawyer, he does not have to speak to anyone other than his client since there is an attorney/client confidential relationship. If your daughter wishes to allow him to speak to you about her case, she would need to sign a waiver of her privilege as to you. The attorney is not compelled to speak to anyone even if she were to do this but generally they will if you can be of help to the client. You should discuss this with her and then make attempts to contact the attorney when she waives her privilege.
Answer Applies to: Kansas
Replied: 2/3/2012
Law Office of Brendan M. Kelly | Brendan M. Kelly
Sorry, to hear the details of your daughters case. You really can't do much if the lawyer does not present the evidence. You might want to call a few lawyers to see what the actual cost would be to defend her.
Answer Applies to: Nebraska
Replied: 2/3/2012
Michael Maltby, Attorney at Law | Michael Maltby
Her attorney needs to set a motion to reconsider her conditions of release. It sounds like the facts never got to the judge and therefore were never argued.
Answer Applies to: Washington
Replied: 2/3/2012
Thomas J. Tomko Attorney At law | Thomas J. Tomko
You may want to request that your appointed attorney file a Motion. The Court cannot accept the second reason as a valid one for failing the bond condition. However, now that there have been a few days in jail, the Court may change its mind. Future missed tests will not be tolerated, and there will not be a third chance I hope that this was helpful.
Answer Applies to: Michigan
Replied: 2/3/2012
John V Commons, Attorney at Law | John Commons
If you can't come up with money to hire a lawyer, you don't have any other alternatives but to rely on whatever you can get the public defender to do.
Answer Applies to: Indiana
Replied: 2/3/2012
Vargas Law Office LLC | Ronnie Ismael Vargas
If your daughter does not have money for a private attorney, she will have to make due with the court appointed public defender. Your daughter can request a substitution for her present attorney but more likely than not she will be appointed another public defender. Public defender's tend to be attorney's with large case loads making it difficult to meet or communicate with them. Your daughter must continue trying to commmunicate with her attorney unless she asks for a substitution and is granted one.
Answer Applies to: Wisconsin
Replied: 2/3/2012
Russman Law | Ryan Russman
I would contact her lawyer and inform them of her inability to attend the drug test.
Answer Applies to: New Hampshire
Replied: 2/3/2012
Law Firm of Martin & Wallentine | Jerry Lee Wallentine Jr.
Conditions of bond are just that, conditions that must be met in order to stay out on bond. While your daughter had arguable reasons why she was unable to comply with the conditions, the fact remains that she didn't comply and the judge exercised his discretion by revoking her bond. If the judge's decision would have been different if the hospital followed through with their communication, you arguably have a valid complaint against the hospital. You mentioned that you were never provided a fair pre-trial, but I am confused as to what pre-trial you did or didn't have for your upcoming trial.
Answer Applies to: Kansas
Replied: 2/3/2012
Law Office of Richard Williams | Richard Williams
If you don't have any money for privately retained counsel, I do not feel there is much that you can do.
Answer Applies to: Alabama
Replied: 2/3/2012
Robert Valles and Associates P.C. | Robert Valles Jr.
Sorry but she is just gonna have to wait till the next court date, not much else you can do, the judge took the bond.
Answer Applies to: Texas
Replied: 2/3/2012
Healan Law Offices | William D. Healan, III
There is not much you can do. The choices are either to hire a private lawyer or be appointed a public defender. If you can't afford a private lawyer, you are going to have a public defender.
Answer Applies to: Georgia
Replied: 2/3/2012
Law Office of Roianne H. Conner | Roianne Houlton Conner
Your only option is to request another public defender. Get the hospital records and if you have to go to the judge's office and at least give them to his secretary to give to him to prove that the officer lied.
Answer Applies to: Alabama
Replied: 2/3/2012
THE DOUGLAS LAW FIRM, LLC | HEATHER DOUGLAS
Either speak to her appointed lawyer and see if he will go down to the court and correct the situation, if possible, once all the proof is obtained or, hire an attorney. Realize that many judges will lock a bond if the client does not abide by the conditions and sometimes, despite the attorneys best effort, the judge may not release the client.
Answer Applies to: Alabama
Replied: 2/3/2012
Law Office of Christopher G Humphrey PC | Christopher G Humphrey
There are no Pre trial services in Wyoming, there is no supervision on bond. but for the sake of argument, have you tried making an appointment with the attorney? Also, most of my clients lie to their friends and family about what was really said, and what really happened. It is natural to do so, because you want your family in your side. If she violated bond by not appearing for drug testing twice, the court will set a bond, usually much higher again. You must post the higher bond. If the pretrial officer is lying, it will take concrete proof to show the court that he lied. If he lied under oath it could be perjury. I would calmly make an appointment with the attorney.
Answer Applies to: Wyoming
Replied: 2/3/2012
Timothy J. Thill P.C. | Timothy J. Thill
I would advise contacting the attorney representing your daughter, but do so with an appointment, not on the spur of the moment. Public defenders are more busy than ever, in these tough economic times, and you will have to see him at a time when he is not occupied in court. He should be able to motion the case back before the judge, in order to explain what happened, and be prepared to back up your story with concrete evidence, not heresay documents. Discuss with the public defender representing her. I would not be surprised if another court date has been assigned for your daughter, perhaps that is coming up soon, and I would guess she has a good chance of walking out of court, and avoiding a lengthy prison sentence at that time.
Answer Applies to: Illinois
Replied: 2/3/2012
Andersen Law PLLC | Craig Andersen
It doesn't sound like she has had a trial yet. What you discuss is pretrial detention issues. Perhaps your son-in-law wanted to use your daughter's time in the hospital for her to get clean and detoxify. From the sound of things, she has a serious drug problem. She apparently can't stay clean even when it means the loss of her liberty. My advice would be to get her into inpatient treatment so she can assist her attorney with the defense of the charge or charges she is facing. Other than that, the Washington State Bar Association does have a Modest Means program your daughter may qualify for. That's about all I can suggest.
Answer Applies to: Washington
Replied: 2/3/2012
Freeborn Law Offices, P.S. | Steve Freeborn
I do not know enough about the case or your daughter.. I don't know if she has any priors.. I don't know what she has been charged with.. I don't know what the court set as bail.. I do not know the court's reasoning. I do not know how long this case has been going. These are just some of the many issues I would need answers to before I could begin to give you any kind of suggestion. You are in a tough situation. Perhaps just paying an attorney for a one time consult might be of some help in providing you with direction. Sorry I can't be of more help.
Answer Applies to: Washington
Replied: 2/3/2012
Wiegandt& Doubles | Malcolm Doubles
You may attempt to get a new attorney appointed but short of hiring your own attorney, your options are very limited.
Answer Applies to: Virginia
Replied: 2/3/2012
Law Offices of John Carney | John Carney
You can retain a private lawyer just to investigate the missed date concerning the hospital and request a bail hearing. If it were me, I would try to get the prosecutor and the people who are involved in the drug testing to consent to her being released. Then I would get an affidavit from her husband indicating that he refused to give her money for gas and an affidavit from your daughter indicating that she was not able to make the drug test. Then I would get documentation from the hospital to prove that she was there and the reason why she was unable to make it. I would also add a report from a counselor indicating how many negative tests she had. The rest of the bail application would include information like her lack of prior criminal history, bench warrants, or missed appearances. Your public defender can also make such a bail motion but they will usually not take the time or effort to do all of that work. Your daughter is not a good decision maker and may have avoided the drug tests because she knew she would test positive for one or more drugs. She will have to stop using drugs and alcohol for years to come since she will probably be in treatment and on probation for 3-5 years when she takes the plea. If she is going to get a jail sentence the time she is spending in jail will be subtracted from the sentence and maybe she could get time served without probation if it is a misdemeanor. Not having gas money is not a valid excuse for missing a drug test, she is supposed to take a bus, get a ride, or walk. Most judges would have revoked her bail after two missed dates, but not if one of the dates had a valid explanation like being in the hospital. A good lawyer could probably get her out, but a public defender is not usually going to be able to win such a motion.
Answer Applies to: New York
Replied: 2/3/2012
Attorney at Law | Ernest Krause
If the case is in a county with a big population the public defender is probably skilled. So, she pleaded "not guilty" and had had one or more hearings after that? Send a fax and leave telephone messages for the Public Defender. Or phone that office and find out when he/she is available. The PD should deal with all issues.
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 2/2/2012
Mark Thiessen, Attorney at Law | Mark Thiessen
Unfortunately, if you can't afford an attorney, you are stuck with the PDs office. But the PDs office is usually very good, so if they can't get her out, chances are the Judge won't give her a bond.
Answer Applies to: Texas
Replied: 2/2/2012
The Law Office of Harry E. Hudson, Jr. | Harry E. Hudson, Jr.
Not being where you were told to be when you were told to be there would cause most any judge to think about putting one n jail. Doing it twice increases the probability. Having proof that she was not deliberatley violating the court's order would obviously be beneficial. PDs are usually pretty busy people. They can always use assistance in this type of evidence gathering. Oral testimaony does not carry much weight in this type of situation. \If you have provided some written support for her missing the appearances or tests, and the PD does not want to do anything, she can ask the court for a new attorney. Does not mean she will get one.
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 2/2/2012
William L. Welch, III Attorney | William L. Welch, III
Unfortunately, violation of any pretrial release condition may result in confinement until the case is resolved. Even though she seems to have had a valid reason for the first missed appointment, the court is on solid ground for revoking based on the second. It will be more difficult now to meet with her appointed lawyer, but she should persistently ask to do so in advance of the trial. She needs i) to know what the state's evidence is, to explain her side of the story to her lawyer, in case she has a defense or mitigation, iii) to understand her options, and iv) to instruct her lawyer what her goal is.
Answer Applies to: Maryland
Replied: 2/2/2012
Kevin Smith, Attorney at Law | Kevin Smith
You need to seriously consider hiring a private attorney. Ask for a payment plan, but be prepared to put something down. Private counsel will be able to provide your daughter more time and coordinate the cooperation and communication between all the agencies in a way that is not necessarily an attorney's duty, per Se, but more of an added service that private counsel can provide because of their fee.
Answer Applies to: Connecticut
Replied: 2/2/2012
Law office of Robert D. Scott | Robert Scott
Your daughter can ask the Public Defender to file a Motion to Modify the Conditions of Release, based upon the information you provided regarding the hospital and lack of carfare. It might help if her drug tests are negative.
Answer Applies to: Maryland
Replied: 2/2/2012
H. Scott Basham, Attorney at Law, P.C. | H. Scott Basham
You can ask to have a different public defender put on the case. If you can't afford a private lawyer, there is not much else you can do. But most private lawyers give free initial consultations and you may find one in your price range.
Answer Applies to: Georgia
Replied: 2/2/2012
Law Office of Jared Altman | Jared Altman
You have to be a thorn in the public defender's side to get them to help You as much as possible. The squeaky wheel gets oiled.
Answer Applies to: New York
Replied: 2/2/2012
The Short Law Group, P.C. | Shawn Kollie
Although it would be best to retain an experienced criminal defense attorney to give your daughter's case the attention it needs, your public defender may be able to request another 'release hearing' in the not-to-distant future to request your daughter be released from custody pending a resolution of her case. Many of the private criminal defense attorneys may be less expensive than you anticipate and could certainly help her through this difficult time.
Answer Applies to: Oregon
Replied: 2/2/2012
Dennis Roberts, a P.C. | Dennis Roberts
PD is right. If she misses two court dates they will most likely not bail or OR her. You should bring the hospital proof to the PD but the story that the husband wouldn't give her money for gas sounds like BS to a judge. She could have taken a bus; she could have walked; she could have borrowed the money from you.
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 2/2/2012
Baner and Baner | Jonathan Baner
Pre-trials are not fair or unfair. They are walk in say "trial" or "continue pre-trial" or "plead guilty and move to sentencing" unless one pleads guilty and moves to sentencing at the pre-trial against the wishes of the client they probably did the right thing. If you screw up your conditions of arraignment you go to jail. It isn't really a fair process where you can go in and say, "but judge I didn't have..." Obviously that is of little help. One idea may be to attempt to get the bail lowered, but that may not be possible (I literally have no idea). Bad situation - hopefully it resolves better. Good news is that the credit for time served offer may come up by the time of trial.
Answer Applies to: Washington
Replied: 2/2/2012
Beaulier Law Office | Maury Beaulier
A Court may always review conditions of release and/or set bail if there has been some change in circumstance since the last hearing. The only way to proceed is have current counsel raise the issue at the next hearing or hire private counsel to set a new hearing on conditions of release.
Answer Applies to: Minnesota
Replied: 2/2/2012
Hammerschmidt Broughton Law | Mark A. Broughton
Unfortunately, without the funds to hire your own attorney, you are at the mercy of the system, so to speak. Public Defenders are terribly overloaded with cases now and don't have the time in most instanced to devote to each case. Neither do probation officers. So, you have to take matters into your own hands. Get that documentation that she was in the hospital; write a declaration or other proof that she was unable to get to her second appointment (frankly, there is no excuse for this - she can't blame this on the "ex" as it is her responsibility to be in court; same goes for taking the drug tests and the other conditions of her probation). Every time she goes in to the probation office, have them sign some document that she was there. Get everything in writing. She had better comply with the orders and conditions of the court or this (violations/custody) is going to become a repeated pattern until she eventually ends up in prison (or county jail for the balance of her term). It is not up to the Public Defender to perform under her probationary grant - it's hers. The system is not going to bend over backwards for her so she is just going to have to hitch up her pants and do it without excuses.
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 2/2/2012
Law Office of Jeff Yeh | Jeff Yeh
Not much you can do other than fire the PD and represent yourself (which is almost always a bad idea). My advice is, save money and hire a private attorney who knows what he/she is doing.
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 2/2/2012
Aaron Black Law | Aaron Black
Talk with your public defender. Get the information together about the circumstances of missing the tests and ask the lawyer to file another motion regarding release conditions.
Answer Applies to: Arizona
Replied: 2/2/2012
Edward A. Kroll, Attorney at Law | Edward A. Kroll
Unfortunately, if you don't have the ability to retain a lawyer of your choosing, then you must go with a public defender. If this person is not doing enough for you, then your daughter will have to ask the court to appoint her a new public defender.
Answer Applies to: Oregon
Replied: 2/2/2012


































