Can a mortgage company do this after bankruptcy? 21 Answers as of November 09, 2012

In 2005 bankruptcy was filed. The mortgage company was suppose to reaffirm with the lawyer but did not. They where still getting payments until Nov 2011. We had a death in the family causing us not to be able to pay the payments. That was when we found out that we was paying for it and it was actually filed in the bankruptcy. Now they are threatening to take it because of late payments. They recieved OVER $60,000.00 because we didn't know they didn't reaffirm. Is there anything we can do?

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Marc S. Stern
Marc S. Stern | Marc S. Stern
Liens survive bankruptcy. Reaffirmation is not required for real property. I presume that you were paying the mortgage or deed of trust that is a lien on the property. You need to pay the creditor to keep the property or they can foreclose and take the property. The problem, as set forth in the question, seems to be that you got late on your payments. The solution is to bring the payments current, negotiate a modification, file a Chapter 13 and bring the loan current in the 13, sell the property or let them foreclose.
Answer Applies to: Washington
Replied: 6/15/2012
Indianapolis Bankruptcy Law Office of Eric C. Lewis
Indianapolis Bankruptcy Law Office of Eric C. Lewis | Eric Lewis
Without a reaffirmation, the bank can take the home back. The good news is that you do not owe them for anything related to the mortgage that is subject to discharge.
Answer Applies to: Indiana
Replied: 6/15/2012
Janet A. Lawson Bankruptcy Attorney
Janet A. Lawson Bankruptcy Attorney | Janet Lawson
The bankruptcy code does NOT require reaffirmation agreements on real property. The bankruptcy relieved you of the personal liability on the loan. When you don't pay, all the lender can do is foreclose. So you made payments but those payments entitled you to stay in the property. If you want to keep a chapter 13 might be answer.
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 6/15/2012
Alvin Lundgren | Alvin Lundgren
You can catch up the payments and/or reaffirm. If you do not the mortgage company can take possession of the house and evict you. You cannot get your money back.
Answer Applies to: Utah
Replied: 6/14/2012
Attorney At Law | Harry D. Roth
The mortgage company can take the property because the bankruptcy did nothing to stop that in the first place. The lack of a re-affirmation is meaningless. A foreclosure is "stopped" by a bankruptcy only in the sense that it puts the foreclosure on hold. The right of the bank to take back their collateral is not changed by a bankruptcy. The underlying debt is eliminated but the right to foreclose is not. If the payments are not maintained the bank can foreclose.
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 6/13/2012
    Stuart Jon Bierman  Attorney at Law
    Stuart Jon Bierman Attorney at Law | Stuart Jon Bierman
    Seems to me that you should consult with an attorney about this type of issue. It is complicated and there is a lot of money and your home involved, and an attorney would also want to see the relevant paperwork. An attorney may want to be paid a consultation fee but I think it will be worth paying it to get a well-informed analysis of your rights and responsibilities.
    Answer Applies to: New Jersey
    Replied: 6/13/2012
    The Schreiber Law Firm
    The Schreiber Law Firm | Jeffrey D. Schreiber
    It doesn't sound like the problem is a lack of a reaffirmation. If you are late in the payments, whether you reaffirmed or not, the lender can still foreclose for past due payments.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 6/13/2012
    Charles Schneider, P.C.
    Charles Schneider, P.C. | Charles J. Schneider
    They should have received over $60,000.00. You lived there. The fact that you cannot make payment means that they can foreclose. Your reaffirmation would have only hurt you now as they could foreclose and sue you for any deficiency.
    Answer Applies to: Michigan
    Replied: 6/13/2012
    Steven Alpers | Steven Alpers
    I don't understand your question. If they received payments through a chapter 13 , everything was stayed. If the bankruptcy was completed you should have paid off the arrears. If you have failed to pay since that time they have all their rights. Possibly a chapter 13 is needed now.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 6/13/2012
    Ross Smith, Attorney at Law
    Ross Smith, Attorney at Law | Charles Ross Smith III
    Thank goodness your attorney did not reaffirm your mortgage. If they had, you would be personally responsible for the note on the house that you can not pay. Now you will get to live in the house for free for about 1 year while the bank eventually forecloses and then you will walk away owing nothing. An excellent result. Be happy. Your attorney did well.
    Answer Applies to: Ohio
    Replied: 6/13/2012
    Diefer Law Group, P.C.
    Diefer Law Group, P.C. | Abel Fernandez
    You are required to make payments on a mortgage if you are living on the home. You don't have to reaffirm to keep the home. All you need to do is continue to make payments. However, if you stop making the payments the bank can foreclose on the property.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 6/13/2012
    R. Jason de Groot, P.A
    R. Jason de Groot, P.A | R. Jason de Groot
    This situation sounds like something you should be discussing with your bankruptcy attorney. You would have to sign documents reaffirming the mortgage, not the lawyer. If you want to keep a house, you have to pay the payments, regardless of whether the debt was reaffirmed. The debt was probably discharged, meaning that you do not owe the money. The mortgage company would still have a lien on the property and can foreclose if payments aren't made. In order to keep the house at this stage, you can bring the payments current. It works to your benefit, probably, that the debt was not reaffirmed, because they cannot get a deficiency judgment against you.
    Answer Applies to: Florida
    Replied: 6/13/2012
    Nguyen Tran Law Firm Pllc | Pho Ethan Tran
    If the mortgage was not reaffirmed by you during bankruptcy, the bank cannot sue you for the debt. However, the bank still has a valid security interest in the house that allows them to seize it in case of nonpayment. You can try to workout a deal with the bank to keep the house.
    Answer Applies to: Texas
    Replied: 6/13/2012
    Dan Wilson Bankruptcy
    Dan Wilson Bankruptcy | Dan Wilson
    Reaffirmation of mortgage debt is unnecessary. If you are in default your lender will foreclose. It has nothing to do with reaffirmation.
    Answer Applies to: Colorado
    Replied: 6/13/2012
    Barbara Fontaine, Esquire | Barbara Fontaine
    Go back to your bankruptcy lawyer. That is who should have helped with the reaffirmation UNLESS you did not wish to reaffirm and it said so in your bankruptcy filing. If you have lived there for over 6 years, you paid $10,000 per year, which is only $833 per month rent,which seems like a good deal! Since I do not know enough detail, I cannot give you more of a answer.
    Answer Applies to: Rhode Island
    Replied: 6/13/2012
    R. Steven Chambers PLLC | R. Steven Chambers PLLC
    Actually the fact that you didn't reaffirm is a good thing because you are not personally liable for the delinquency or any deficiency. Had you reaffirmed it would be as if the bankruptcy had never been filed with respect to the bank. Even though you didn't reaffirm the bank retained its mortgage against the property and can foreclose if payments aren't made. As for the payments you made, it appears you have lived there since 2005 through 2011 and those payments would probably be considered rent. If the total payments exceed the fair rental value of the property you might be able to recover the excess.
    Answer Applies to: Utah
    Replied: 11/9/2012
    Bruce Plesser | Bruce Plesser
    You are a victim of predatory lending.
    Answer Applies to: Florida
    Replied: 6/13/2012
    Debt Relief Law Center | Roger J. Bus
    The mortgage company can foreclose if you are not current. Be sure to try to bring your payments current or contact the various mortgage help lines that exist to assist homeowners facing foreclosure.
    Answer Applies to: Michigan
    Replied: 6/13/2012
    The Law Offices of Kristy Qiu
    The Law Offices of Kristy Qiu | Mengjun Qiu
    Unfortunately, since a mortgage is a debt secured by a collateral, they can take the collateral away if payment is stopped, regardless of the bankruptcy. They can take it away at any time if payment is stopped. You could file another bankruptcy to stay the lawsuit, but it won't help you to save your property unless you continue to pay. However, since you did not reaffirm the mortgage, your personal obligation is gone, meaning that if they do foreclose on the property, you won't be liable for the deficiency or the remainder of the debt personally.
    Answer Applies to: Florida
    Replied: 6/13/2012
    Goldsmith & Guymon
    Goldsmith & Guymon | Marjorie Guymon
    You don't have to reaffirm. Your lawyer did you a favor by not reaffirming the debt. As long as you pay, you are entitled to receive title to your home at the end of your loan. If you don't pay, the bank is entitled to foreclose on your house-same as if you had never filed bankruptcy. By signing a reaffirmation agreement you would have also been obligated for any deficiency in the event of nonpayment and foreclosure. This way, if you cannot cure the default then the bank can foreclose but can't get any deficiency out of you.
    Answer Applies to: Nevada
    Replied: 6/13/2012
    Moore Taylor & Thomas PA
    Moore Taylor & Thomas PA | Jane Downey
    Most people don't reaffirm the mortgage. Your lawyer gave you good advice not to reaffirm. Catch up the payments as quickly as you can or consider filing another 13.
    Answer Applies to: South Carolina
    Replied: 6/13/2012
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