Can I be charged for menacing if I make someone leave my property? 37 Answers as of January 16, 2012

Can you be charged for menacing if someone comes on your property with a lot of no trespassing signs? He was swinging the gun at my face. He was drinking, so I took the gun away from him and threw it into the woods and made him leave my property. He went and got a warrant for me for menacing that night. He damaged my car and they said that I couldn't get a warrant for him.

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Cynthia Henley, Lawyer
Cynthia Henley, Lawyer | Cynthia Henley
Definitely hire a lawyer. If the facts are as you present, he committed aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. And you ALWAYS have the right to remove someone from your property.
Answer Applies to: Texas
Replied: 1/16/2012
Law Office of Phillip Weiser
Law Office of Phillip Weiser | Phillip L. Weiser
You should make a report with the local police about the unauthorized trespass and the aggravated assault with a firearm.
Answer Applies to: Kansas
Replied: 1/9/2012
Law office of Robert D. Scott | Robert Scott
It sounds like you need a lawyer if the state proceeds with the case. It appears as though you were the victim here.
Answer Applies to: Maryland
Replied: 1/9/2012
Michael Breczinski
Michael Breczinski | Michael Breczinski
He commited a crime by bringing the gun onto your property and threatening you with it. He obviously went to the police and made up a story. Are there any other witnesses to what happened.
Answer Applies to: Michigan
Replied: 1/3/2012
The McDonnell Law Firm, PLLC
The McDonnell Law Firm, PLLC | Patrick J. McDonnell
To be charged with menacing, you would have had to put a person in fear of imminent serious physical injury or death. Unless you aimed the gun at him, I don't see where the menacing charge is justified.
Answer Applies to: New York
Replied: 1/3/2012
Burdon and Merlitti
Burdon and Merlitti | Adam Van Ho
In theory, you could be charged, but it sounds like you would have a great defense. I am a little troubled as to why they said that he could not be charged (at least with criminal tresspassing), but if he was swinging a gun around while intoxicated and on private property, you will have an excellent defense at trial.
Answer Applies to: Ohio
Replied: 1/3/2012
Law Office of Brendan M. Kelly
Law Office of Brendan M. Kelly | Brendan M. Kelly
Yes, you could be charged. Can they prove it, sound doubtful based upon what you say.
Answer Applies to: Nebraska
Replied: 12/30/2011
Law Office of Jared Altman
Law Office of Jared Altman | Jared Altman
Unfortunately you are going to have to hire a lawyer and defend yourself.
Answer Applies to: New York
Replied: 12/30/2011
Thomas J. Tomko Attorney At law
Thomas J. Tomko Attorney At law | Thomas J. Tomko
First off, in Michigan, there is not a charge which is generically called "menacing." Instead, you may be abbreviating something which would be a helpful detail. Second, your case seems filled with facts which may not be disclosed here and upon which the whole case will turn. You should consider hiring an attorney to discuss the details of the events to determine the best course of action. Most importantly, do not submit to questioning by the police. If you are asked to give your side of the story to an investigating officer, you should not do so without first hiring an attorney. You will be at great risk of convicting yourself through your statements if you decide to talk to the police, making your own statements your worst enemy.
Answer Applies to: Michigan
Replied: 12/29/2011
Gregory Casale Attorney at Law
Gregory Casale Attorney at Law | Gregory Casale
It can be very frustrating when you feel you are the actual victim but someone else beats you to the draw and you end up as the defendant. However, as frustrating as it may be, you now have to defend yourself before YOU end up with a conviction for someone else's bad behavior. Hire a lawyer. The court system is not designed for lay people and if you take the naive view that because you feel you are right that it will all work out, you are likely to be very upset after going through the court process. Hire the best lawyer you can afford and listen to what they advise you to do.
Answer Applies to: Massachusetts
Replied: 12/29/2011
    Palumbo and Kosofsky
    Palumbo and Kosofsky | Michael Palumbo
    Clearly you can be charged because you were charged. Welcome to the world of criminal justice in America: the first person to call the police is the victim, the second is the defendant. Just the way it works.
    Answer Applies to: New York
    Replied: 12/29/2011
    Freeborn Law Offices, P.S.
    Freeborn Law Offices, P.S. | Steve Freeborn
    It sounds like this person was trespassing on your property. You have every right to make that person leave and to protect your property. The fact that he came onto your property and was threatening you with a gun and damaged your car, gives you even more justification. I find it hard to believe that the police did not arrest him, for reason that based upon your statement, I could see that person being charged with multiple criminal offenses. However, the fact that you are the one with the warrant, causes me to believe that perhaps there is more to your story. I suggest that you consult with an attorney so that he/she can review with you ALL of the facts.
    Answer Applies to: Washington
    Replied: 12/29/2011
    Andersen Law PLLC
    Andersen Law PLLC | Craig Andersen
    First of all, the aggressor cannot get a warrant for you. Only a prosecutor can get that. Secondly, did you point the gun at the aggressor after you took it away from him? If so, you may be lucky to get off with a menacing charge. Pointing a gun at an unarmed person is Assault 2, a serious violent felony. You need to find out the name of the investigating officer, hire an attorney and go meet with the officer to inform the officer of your side of the story. Make sure that your attorney does the talking. While the occupier of land may use reasonable force to eject a trespasser, that force is minimal at best. The better approach would have been to take the gun away and get inside your home. Call the police and report the event and wait for them to arrive. At this point, you are behind the eight ball and you should take your attorney to the gun if you can find it. Your attorney should have the cop meet him there. Whatever you do, don't do anything with the gun. It's terrible that there may be a loaded gun out in the woods so get a lawyer and get the cops out there ASAP.
    Answer Applies to: Washington
    Replied: 12/29/2011
    Law Office of Richard Williams
    Law Office of Richard Williams | Richard Williams
    There is a difference in whether someone can get a warrant for you and whether you can be convicted. From what you tell me I do not feel that this rises to the level of a menancing. I'm certain that the purported victim may tell a different story in court and it may be your word against his. The magistrate's office normally does not allow cross warrants to be filed so the first to make a report and sign a warrant oftentimes protects themself from being charged, arrested or convicted.
    Answer Applies to: Alabama
    Replied: 12/29/2011
    Beaulier Law Office
    Beaulier Law Office | Maury Beaulier
    Under Minnesota law, there is no such charge as menacing. However, threats of physical harm can rise to the level of terroristic threats in some cases. That would require a serious threat of physical harm. You may also be charged with "assault, for conduct defined as assaulting another with a dangerous weapon which would include conduct that is defined as menacing.
    Answer Applies to: Minnesota
    Replied: 12/29/2011
    AyerHoffman, LLP
    AyerHoffman, LLP | David C. Ayer
    One is generally allowed to use reasonable force to eject a trespasser, but this can change from state to state. Your action against this trespasser sounds within reason. It is unlikely a magistrate would find probable cause to support going forward with criminal charges against you, let alone issuing an arrest warrant. You may wish to retain a criminal defense attorney to deal with and dispose of whatever charges the trespasser filed. You can certainly go to the police or to a magistrate and swear out a complaint against him for assault with a deadly weapon, malicious destruction of property, disorderly conduct, public intoxication, and criminal trespass.
    Answer Applies to: Massachusetts
    Replied: 12/29/2011
    Charles M. Schiff, Attorney at Law
    Charles M. Schiff, Attorney at Law | Charles M. Schiff
    You would have a good defense case based on your recitation of facts. This does not mean that you cannot be "charged". If the prosecuting authorities choose to believe his version of the facts, you might well be charged. You must then defend. The state has the burden of proving its case beyond a reasonable doubt before it can obtain a conviction.
    Answer Applies to: Minnesota
    Replied: 12/29/2011
    Law Office of Peter F. Goldscheider
    Law Office of Peter F. Goldscheider | Peter Goldscheider
    You can be charged with anything the police and the DA want to charge you with. It doesn't mean they are right of you will be convicted. Based on the facts you relate something isn't right. You need to get a good attorney who specializes in criminal law to straighten it out.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 12/29/2011
    Myles A. Schneider & Associates
    Myles A. Schneider & Associates | Myles Albert Schneider
    The word "menacing" does not appear in the Minnesota Criminal Statutes... Please clarify your request with the statute cited in the warrant.
    Answer Applies to: Arizona
    Replied: 12/29/2011
    H. Scott Basham, Attorney at Law, P.C. | H. Scott Basham
    Under the circumstances as you describe them, I don't see where you committed a crime. You say he was brandishing a gun at you on your own property, plus he was trespassing. The only crimes I see here were committed by him.
    Answer Applies to: Georgia
    Replied: 12/29/2011
    Law Office of William L Spern | William Spern
    This question makes no sense! There is no law against menacing. Further, damage to a vehicle on your property would be consider malicious destruction of property over $100.00, a felony.
    Answer Applies to: Michigan
    Replied: 12/29/2011
    Law Offices of George Woodworth & Associates
    Law Offices of George Woodworth & Associates | George Woodworth
    It depends on what you did to make him "leave (your) property." While there is no crime of "menacing" there are crimes like "criminal threats" and "exhibiting a weapon in a rude, angry, or threatening manner," etc. which could be involved. You may be prosecuted under various criminal codes when you use physical force on others, i.e., you say you took the gun away from him (how exactly did you do that & with what force?), and did you restrain him from going to get or find the gun? Thus, it is not so simple and justifiable to use self-help to remove a person even when you perceive him as undesirable.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 12/29/2011
    The Law Offices of Stephen L. Richards | Stephen L. Richards
    You probably have a valid defense to menacing.
    Answer Applies to: Illinois
    Replied: 12/29/2011
    Robert Valles and Associates P.C.
    Robert Valles and Associates P.C. | Robert Valles Jr.
    You can file charges for aggravated assault and trespassing.
    Answer Applies to: Texas
    Replied: 12/28/2011
    Law Offices of James H. Dippery, Jr. | James H. Dippery, Jr.
    Based on what facts you have provided you should be in the clear. You did what you were entitled to do, which was to resist a trespasser. I would be very surprised, again on the facts as stated, if the DA were to charge you with anything. What happened to the gun in the woods? Do you recover it and give it to the police as evidence that the complaining 'victim' was in fact armed?
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 12/28/2011
    The Law Office of Harry E. Hudson, Jr.
    The Law Office of Harry E. Hudson, Jr. | Harry E. Hudson, Jr.
    Menacing??? Do you mean criminal [AKA terrorist] threats? Within reason, one may use that force necessary to remove a person from their property.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 12/28/2011
    Law Office of Daniel K Martin
    Law Office of Daniel K Martin | Daniel K Martin
    First of all, anyone can be charged with any crime. The more important question is can the prosecutor obtain a conviction. This brings me to the next issue, he did not get a warrant against you. He made a report that caused law enforcement to ask a judge for a warrant. The judge then must have been convinced by what law enforcement reported that probable cause existed. I don't know if there were other witnesses who lied to police or what exactly was reported to law enforcement. You should contact a criminal defense lawyer to discuss your case as soon as you can.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 12/28/2011
    Ascheman & Smith | Landon Ascheman
    There is no crime of menacing in Minnesota. There is a lot of missing information that is needed to answer your question. Your best move is to gather your paperwork and find a criminal defense attorney, like myself. Most of us offer free initial consultations. From there we can help you through the process and explain your situation. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or concerns.
    Answer Applies to: Minnesota
    Replied: 12/28/2011
    Law Offices of John Carney
    Law Offices of John Carney | John Carney
    You can be arrested for any crime that the police believe occurred if a witness signs a supporting deposition under penalty of perjury and the judge signs the arrest warrant. People can say that you robbed them, raped them, menaced them, or assaulted them. You will be arrested and arraigned before a criminal court judge. You will be assigned an attorney or you can retain one and it is always better to retain a good criminal lawyer to investigate the matter. If you took away the gun it should have his prints on it. That will prove he possessed the gun. You may be able to trace the gun to him by the serial number. There could be surveillance video or witnesses in certain cases. As far as having him arrested the police do not like to arrest the complainant since it may be a vindictive retaliation and they don't want their "victim/witness" charged with a "cross complaint". I do not know if you are telling the truth but if a person came on your property with a gun and you "threw it into the woods" then you should have called the police in the first place. You should never have left the gun in the woods for some kids or a criminal to find, that was foolish and casts doubts on your version of the events. People often change the facts to suit themselves so I have no way of knowing what happened unless I interviewed the complainant and did a full investigation of the facts and circumstances.
    Answer Applies to: New York
    Replied: 12/28/2011
    Connell-Savela
    Connell-Savela | Jason Savela
    You can be charged with very little evidence or lies, but that does not mean you are guilty. on these facts, you are not guilty. It sounds like the intruder is guilty of menacing. about 2 years ago, i successfully defended a man standing on his own porch, with a gun, telling a census worker to leave his property - not guilty.Get a lawyer - public defender if you cannot afford a private attorney.
    Answer Applies to: Colorado
    Replied: 12/28/2011
    Mark Thiessen, Attorney at Law
    Mark Thiessen, Attorney at Law | Mark Thiessen
    He is absolutely crazy and the warrant is bogus. He's lucky you didn't shoot him. If someone threatens your life with a gun, you are absolutely allowed to respond back with a gun. Your property is your property. You can't be a menace on your own property. And menacing isn't even a real crime.
    Answer Applies to: Texas
    Replied: 12/28/2011
    Lawrence Lewis
    Lawrence Lewis | Lawrence Lewis, PC
    Of course you cannot be charged given the facts that you have presented. I am certain the "victim" provided a different set of facts to the police and/or Magistrate, while the truth probably lies somewhere else still.
    Answer Applies to: Georgia
    Replied: 12/28/2011
    Law Office of J Edward Jones | J Edward Jones
    It sounds to me like you are the victim, and that if anyone should be charged, it would be the trespasser. You have a right to defend your property and eject trespassers. If you are charged with criminal charges, a good lawyer should be able to help you get that case dismissed.
    Answer Applies to: Utah
    Replied: 12/28/2011
    Orent Law Offices, PLC
    Orent Law Offices, PLC | Craig Orent
    Can someone be charged with a crime based on mere allegations, yes. Can the State obtain a conviction? That is an entirely different story and as always depends on the particular facts of the incident. If you have been charged you should seek counsel immediately so he/she can review the circumstances and the related reports, and then advise you of the options etc.
    Answer Applies to: Arizona
    Replied: 12/28/2011
    Laguzzi Law, P.C.
    Laguzzi Law, P.C. | Carina Laguzzi
    I am not sure what "menacing" is or why you would believe a drunk fool saying he has a warrant. Next time call the police. For now I wouldn't worry about it. If you are worried, then call the police and find out if there is an active warrant.
    Answer Applies to: Pennsylvania
    Replied: 12/28/2011
    Dennis Roberts, a P.C.
    Dennis Roberts, a P.C. | Dennis Roberts
    This is nuts. When you go to court on the warrant just explain this to the DA or the Judge. That will be the end of it.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 12/28/2011
    Law Office of Jeff Yeh
    Law Office of Jeff Yeh | Jeff Yeh
    Get a lawyer before you talk to the wrong people and incriminate yourself. Remember law enforcement are experts at twisting your words around, so it is always a bad idea to speak to anyone except your retained lawyer.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 12/28/2011
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