Can fighting the legality of the law itself be a good criminal defense? 37 Answers as of November 29, 2011

My lawyer is planning to fight my case based on the assumption that the law being used against me is bad. Could this work?

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Jacob P. Sartz IV., Attorney at Law
Jacob P. Sartz IV., Attorney at Law | Jacob Sartz
Generally, questions of legal strategy should be resolved between the lawyer and client. If a case ends up being appealed, an appellate attorney would have the requisite experience and training, and, with all the available information, to determine whether it was a viable strategy. Lawyers have a lot of professional discretion in determining the best approach. Ultimately, only certain approaches are viable in certain situations.
Answer Applies to: Michigan
Replied: 11/29/2011
Law Office of Daniel K Martin
Law Office of Daniel K Martin | Daniel K Martin
This is a great question. The answer is yes it could work however it is rare. Laws that are vague or ambiguous are unenforceable. Also, laws that are unconstitutional are unenforceable. This defense is difficult. Your lawyer is either a hard working attorney or naive, I hope it is the former not the latter.
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 11/28/2011
Law Offices of Kate Mesic, PA
Law Offices of Kate Mesic, PA | Kate L. Mesic
I assume you are referring to your lawyer arguing that the statute is unconstitutional. That is a possible avenue to explore, it is a long shot, however. A good example is the Florida Drug Law that is currently being considered by the Florida Supreme Court, since in 2002 it eliminated the guilty knowledge or mens rea element of the drug crime. So, the only thing the prosecutor has to prove is the physical act of the crime, and not the knowledge that the drug possessed, sold or manufactured was illegal. If the Court finds it unconstitutional, than many convictions maybe overturned and pending ones dismissed.
Answer Applies to: Florida
Replied: 11/28/2011
Law Office of Richard Williams
Law Office of Richard Williams | Richard Williams
It has, from time to time, worked in the past.
Answer Applies to: Alabama
Replied: 11/18/2011
Reza Athari & Associates, PLLC | Seth L. Reszko
Attorneys can argue this point, but it is not usually the strongest argument. Also, your best chance would be on appeal not the trial level.
Answer Applies to: Nevada
Replied: 11/17/2011
Law Office of Brendan M. Kelly
Law Office of Brendan M. Kelly | Brendan M. Kelly
While it could work, I doubt that it will. Much of it depends on the law in questions and the facts of the case as they are applied.
Answer Applies to: Nebraska
Replied: 11/16/2011
bark & karpf
bark & karpf | peter bark
It is unlikely to work, but it is possible.
Answer Applies to: New York
Replied: 11/16/2011
Mark Thiessen, Attorney at Law
Mark Thiessen, Attorney at Law | Mark Thiessen
Certainly. That's how new law is created. Better be a good attorney and be ready to take this up the appellate chain if you lose though.
Answer Applies to: Texas
Replied: 11/16/2011
Michael Breczinski
Michael Breczinski | Michael Breczinski
That depends on the particular law, the nature of your acts and many other facts that I have not been given. The answer is maybe.
Answer Applies to: Michigan
Replied: 11/16/2011
Jonathan S. Willett Attorney at Law
Jonathan S. Willett Attorney at Law | Jonathan S. Willett
Yes a law maybe determined to be unconstitutional. This is a very ambitious defense though.
Answer Applies to: Colorado
Replied: 11/16/2011
    The McDonnell Law Firm, PLLC
    The McDonnell Law Firm, PLLC | Patrick J. McDonnell
    What do you mean by "bad?" I think there are several "bad" laws, but that doesn't matter. You can write your political representatives to change them. They make the laws. Now, if the law you're talking about is "bad' because it's unconstitutional, that is a different story. If it violates the Constitutions of either New York State or the United States, it can be challenged on those grounds. If found to be unconstitutional, the law will be stricken.
    Answer Applies to: New York
    Replied: 11/16/2011
    Miller & Harrison, LLC
    Miller & Harrison, LLC | David Harrison
    Yes, it would be a great defense.
    Answer Applies to: Colorado
    Replied: 11/16/2011
    Harrison & Harrison
    Harrison & Harrison | Samuel Harrison
    Depending on the law and the way it was written, it could be a very good approach. If there is no reasonable doubt you actually did an act that violates that law, it may be the only defense you have.
    Answer Applies to: Georgia
    Replied: 11/16/2011
    Beaulier Law Office
    Beaulier Law Office | Maury Beaulier
    Yes. Challenging the constitutionality of an existing law can be an effective challenge to a criminal offense. Such effective challenges are rare, however, and would require experienced legal counsel.
    Answer Applies to: Minnesota
    Replied: 11/16/2011
    John V Commons, Attorney at Law
    John V Commons, Attorney at Law | John Commons
    It can work but it is usually a long shot. It may well be that the facts of your case are such that either a long shot or a guilty plea or your only two options. If you are not inclined to accept whatever plea offer has been made, your lawyer may only be left with the long shot.
    Answer Applies to: Indiana
    Replied: 11/16/2011
    Anderson Law Office
    Anderson Law Office | Scott L. Anderson
    If the law is unconstitutional, yes.
    Answer Applies to: Minnesota
    Replied: 11/16/2011
    Craig W. Elhart, P.C.
    Craig W. Elhart, P.C. | Craig Elhart
    It can and has in the past. The degree of success would depend on what is being alleged to be wrong with the law.
    Answer Applies to: Michigan
    Replied: 11/16/2011
    Giannini Law Office, PC
    Giannini Law Office, PC | Robert Giannini
    Sometimes that is a great defense. In example, a few years ago a defense attorney friend of mine challenged the law that said you are DUI if a test detects THC in your blood or urine regardless of whether you were impaired. It was complicated, but basically he argued that the law was a violation of the equal protection clause of the Constitution. The Georgia Supreme Court ruled in his favor and he won. So, that can be a great defense in some cases.
    Answer Applies to: Georgia
    Replied: 11/16/2011
    Austin Legal Services, PLC
    Austin Legal Services, PLC | Jared Austin
    Do you mean he is challenging the constitutionality of a law? That could be a good way to pursue the case if he thinks it is legitimate. Just keep in mind that will delay the case and could even have it tied up in court for years. Your attorney should know the best way to proceed.
    Answer Applies to: Michigan
    Replied: 11/16/2011
    The Law Offices of Victor J Mazzaraco
    The Law Offices of Victor J Mazzaraco | Victor J Mazzaraco
    Yes it can. It's a difficult task, but the law is written by people like you and me. Sometimes we have personal biases, or feel so strongly about an issue we are blinded to things we might otherwise see. this might lead to writing a law that infringes on society's or individuals rights too severely... In legal-ese, a law, can be "overbroad," in that it restricts more conduct or activity than is necessary to achieve the law's goals; a la can be too general or confusing, meaning it doesn't give a person of reasonable intelligence an opportunitty to comply with it because after reading the law a person still doesn't know what he or she can or cannot do - the law is deemed "vague" and therefore unconstitutional. Vagueess and overbreadth are the two main ways of attacking a statute.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 11/16/2011
    Law Office of Jeff Yeh
    Law Office of Jeff Yeh | Jeff Yeh
    Possible but very very very unlikely. You have to somehow argue that the law is unconstitutional. For that to happen it usually goes through several levels of court, up to the state Supreme Court. By that time you'll either be bankrupt from legal bills or so much time has passed that whatever sentence you had to serve will be the distant past.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 11/16/2011
    Law Office of Michael E. Hendrickson
    Law Office of Michael E. Hendrickson | Michael E. Hendrickson
    Maybe, maybe not. Without knowing the specific law in question and how it relates to the relevant facts in your case, it would be difficult to say with any certainty.
    Answer Applies to: Virginia
    Replied: 11/16/2011
    Carter Boyle LLC | Nelson Boyle
    It depends. Trust your lawyer to help you. A qualified lawyer, who has experience representing criminal defendants will use the best available defenses to help you.
    Answer Applies to: Colorado
    Replied: 11/16/2011
    Law Office of Christopher G Humphrey PC | Christopher G Humphrey
    Yes, sometimes but in rare cases. Talk to your attorney if you have doubts about your representation.
    Answer Applies to: Wyoming
    Replied: 11/16/2011
    Betts Legal Services
    Betts Legal Services | Shawn M. Betts
    It could, but most laws have either been challenged and upheld, or else are only found unconstitutional in very rare situations. If there are no other viable defenses, and you will not face more severe consequences by challenging it, you have nothing to lose.
    Answer Applies to: Minnesota
    Replied: 11/15/2011
    Timothy J. Thill P.C.
    Timothy J. Thill P.C. | Timothy J. Thill
    Anything is possible. Many cases have been won on appeal because of issues related to the legality of certain laws that have been passed. I will defer to the high capabilities of your fine defense counsel to make that determination.
    Answer Applies to: Illinois
    Replied: 11/15/2011
    Law Offices of Stephanie Lee Ehrbright, Esq.
    Law Offices of Stephanie Lee Ehrbright, Esq. | Stephanie Lee Ehrbright
    It could possibly work but usually laws have to be changed by the legislature.
    Answer Applies to: Arizona
    Replied: 11/15/2011
    Rizio & Nelson
    Rizio & Nelson | John W. Bussman
    Impossible to say without a whole lot more information. A defense can be made by arguing that the law in unconstitutional, vague, ambiguous, preempted, etc., but I can't venture to guess how successful those arguments would be without knowing more about your case.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 11/15/2011
    Law Offices of Paula Drake
    Law Offices of Paula Drake | Paula Drake
    It sounds like he is arguing that the law is unconstitutional; there could be several grounds for this e.g. that the law is too vague or ambiguous. He must think there are some issues, or he wouldn't waste time with it. It sometimes does actually work! Ask him to explain things to you, that is what he is there for.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 11/15/2011
    Law Office of Joe Dane
    Law Office of Joe Dane | Joe Dane
    You don't say what the law is, what your challenge to it is and you're represented by an attorney. Yet you want an opinion about your legal position and whether or not what your attorney has planned will work? You really need to have a heart to heart with your lawyer.
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 11/15/2011
    Baner and Baner
    Baner and Baner | Jonathan Baner
    What an incredibly vague question. It might be, and it might be your only real chance - hard to know. It is a very common tactic to try to overturn/expand existing precedent that often can work. HOWEVER, if you mean to say he is going to argue that your murder was excusable because you were exercising your First Amendment Rights to protest, then that is probably not a winner. Presumably your attorney has a good argument, but might not have explained it well to you (trust me that such things happen VERY frequently - particularly in criminal and family law matters).
    Answer Applies to: Washington
    Replied: 11/15/2011
    Law Offices of John Carney
    Law Offices of John Carney | John Carney
    You have not given me enough information to advise you. Most challenges to existing laws are unsuccessful. I doubt that the courts will rule that the penal law you are accused of will be declared unconstitutional. It appears that your lawyer is grabbing at straws.
    Answer Applies to: New York
    Replied: 11/15/2011
    Law Offices of Kenneth Wincorn P.C.
    Law Offices of Kenneth Wincorn P.C. | Kenneth Wincorn
    Maybe. It depends on how he attacks the law. This must be a constitutional issue.
    Answer Applies to: Texas
    Replied: 11/15/2011
    Andersen Law PLLC
    Andersen Law PLLC | Craig Andersen
    Yes, if the statute is unconstitutional, or improperly drafted that can be a defense.
    Answer Applies to: Washington
    Replied: 11/15/2011
    Law Offices of Elliott Zarabi
    Law Offices of Elliott Zarabi | Elliott Zarabi
    Yes, it is a difficult way to win, but it is definitely possible!
    Answer Applies to: California
    Replied: 11/15/2011
    The Law Office of M. Elizabeth Foley | M. Elizabeth Foley
    Theoretically, it could work. Realistically? It's pretty unlikely, statistically, unless maybe it happens to be a new law that hasn't really been "tested out" yet and was badly written (usually in such a way that it's not really clear if a certain behavior is illegal or not). So, anything's possible, but if you've got any kind of backup defense in mind, I'd sure discuss that with your attorney now.
    Answer Applies to: Texas
    Replied: 11/15/2011
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