Can the child choose to stay with the father if there are no child custody court papers? 29 Answers as of October 28, 2011
The child lives with mother and visits with the father almost every weekend. He pays support to the mother directly and pays for doctors, etc. The child is on visitation and does not want to go back to his mother. Can the father keep her without being charged for kidnapping? There are no custody papers nor parenting plan. The child is 12 and will be 13 in spring.Free Case Evaluation by a Local Lawyer!
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Free Case Evaluation by a Local Lawyer: Click hereReeves Law Firm, P.C. | Roy L. Reeves
A mother and a father have equal rights until a court says otherwise. Since you have no court papers, you still have equal rights.
Answer Applies to: Texas
Replied: 10/28/2011
Warner Center Law Offices of Donald F. Conviser | Donald F. Conviser
Even the Courts don't give children the power to choose where they live. If the Court determines that a child is of sufficient age and maturity, the Court can consider the child's wishes and reasons, but it is up to the Court to make the custody decision. If you don't return the child to the mother, she will probably file a custody case (divorce or paternity), and the Court could consider the father's refusal to return the child to the mother as inappropriate behavior. You would best file a custody case without delay, and allow the Court to make the decision, instead of letting the child make the decision. I can't surmise whether your keeping the child would be considered kidnapping by the court, but you would better allow the Court to make the decision in a custody case.
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 10/11/2011
Law Office of Michael W. Bugni | Jay W. Neff
The child is not yet 18 years old. Therefore, he or she has pretty much no right to decide where to live. If the parents cannot agree on where the child will live, then, you are going to have to go to court to get a parenting plan.
Answer Applies to: Washington
Replied: 10/28/2011
Beresford Booth PLLC | S. Scott Burkhalter
It is best to have a court ordered custody agreement such as a parenting plan.
Answer Applies to: Washington
Replied: 10/28/2011
Cody and Gonillo, LLP | Christine Gonilla
The father should file for custody and obtain court orders
Answer Applies to: Connecticut
Replied: 10/28/2011
The Law Offices of Jorge A. Calil, P.A. | Jorge A. Calil
If the couple was never married, then the father needs to file a paternity petition to establish his parental rights first. If he's not the legal father he would be kidnapping the child under the law.
Answer Applies to: Florida
Replied: 10/28/2011
Beaulier Law Office | Maury Beaulier
If a man is not married to a child's mother when the child is born, he can become the "legal" father through the"Recognition of Parentage" (ROP) process or by Court Order. To get a Court Order establishing paternity, the dad files papers to start a paternity case in the local District Court where the child or the "defendant" lives. A court may decide what custody and parenting time rights apply based on what it believes to be in the child's best interests. Until that occurs, the mother remains the presumed custodial parent.
Answer Applies to: Minnesota
Replied: 10/7/2011
The Law Office of Erin Farley | Erin Farley
You would not be charged with kidnapping, but you will alienate mom and be dinged by the courts if Mom files for a custody plan. Your best bet is to work this issue out with Mom. If you two do not want to involve the court system, then set up a meeting with a mental health professional who specializes in "co-parent counseling". A 12 year-old is too young to be making adult decisions, but too old to be unheard. Perhaps you and Mom could create a plan wherein time with you is increased -or- create a plan where the child lives primarily with you. The best thing for your child is to work with Mom and come to a mutual decision (if you can).
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 10/7/2011
The Law Office of Kem Eyo, LLC | Kem Eyo
If there are no custody order, it gives the impression that the father never legitimated the child. If this is correct, then the father has no legal custody of the child, and is not entitled to keep the child with him unless the mother agrees to it. If the mother agrees, the child can stay & the father can request termination of the child support order (due to having physical custody). If the mother does object, the father will need to file an action to legitimate the child, may request primary physical custody as an outcome of the legitimation action, and may state the child's preference as a basis for an award of primary custody.
Answer Applies to: Georgia
Replied: 10/6/2011
Reza Athari & Associates, PLLC | Armand Fried
The courts usually take the child's preference into account in deciding, but they are not bound by that. The best way to do this is to go to court and file papers for custody and get a determionation of what is in the best interests of the child. The court would look at the whole picture - e.g, would this involve a change of schools, is child care available if the father works (same for mother), living conditions of each parent, etc. If it was in the best interests of the child to be with the father, the court would so order, with appropriate visitation for the mother. But I do not recommend just keeping the child, file the court papers first and then ask the court for temporary custody while the action is pending.
Answer Applies to: Nevada
Replied: 10/6/2011
The Law Office of Cathy R. Cook | Cathy R. Cook
If the parents are not married, mother has custody by law, and father has no legal right to keep the child from mother. If the parents are married, each has the same legal right to keep the child with them. However, if the parent prevents the other parent from seeing the child, that is a factor for the court to give custody to the other parent.
Answer Applies to: Ohio
Replied: 10/6/2011
AyerHoffman, LLP | Cara Lee Thompson
If the father has not already done so, he can file a complaint to establish paternity, requesting sole physical and legal custody of the child or perhaps joint legal custody if the father wants to include the mother in decision making for the child. He can also request that the mother be permitted visitation with the child, if he chooses to request to do so. The complaint can also outline child support sought by the father from the mother since the child will be residing with the father and not the mother.
Answer Applies to: Massachusetts
Replied: 10/6/2011
Dunnings Law Firm | Steven Dunnings
He can keep the child, but it is better to file to get a court order for custody in case there is a dispute.
Answer Applies to: Michigan
Replied: 10/6/2011
Law Office of Cassandra Savoy | Cassandra Savoy
A fourteen year old is not an adult and can not make decisions about what is in her best interest. Parents do that. If you and mother can not figure it out, then you should file for custody with the courts. Of course, you realize that one of the big problems is that if the child comes to live with you, the child support arrangement changes. She will pay you rather than you paying her. This is usually the big stumbling block to custody shifts.
Answer Applies to: New Jersey
Replied: 10/6/2011
Horizons Law Group, LLC | Michelle B. Fitzgerald
Kidnapping is hiding or concealing a child, but sounds like the mom knows where you live and where the child will be. So that is not the concern. The child could stay with you, but you also have no court papers to prevent her from bringing the child back to her place either. Sounds like one of you will need to initiate an action if you want a permanent plan with orders.
Answer Applies to: Wisconsin
Replied: 10/6/2011
Petit & Dommershausen SC | Tajara Dommershausen
I have a hard time believing there is no custody or placement order if there is one for child support and medical expenses. It may be vague, that she has primary and he has reasonable visitation upon reasonable notice. Can he be charged if he keeps her? Yes. Will he be charge? Unlikely. He is safer if he keeps her to file a motion to modify the placement.
Answer Applies to: Wisconsin
Replied: 10/6/2011
Patricia C. Van Haren, Attorney at Law | Patricia Van Haren
If the child has been residing with the mother and the father chooses to withhold the child without any court orders, the mother may be able to seek an order to return the child based on a request to maintain the status quo. The best approach is to file for custody and visitation orders rather than using an approach of not returning the child.
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 10/6/2011
Law & Mediation Office of Jeffrey L. Pollock, Esq. | Jeffrey Lawrence Pollock
While your answer is probably "yes," you should hire a lawyer to file the appropriate Motion to lawyer to safely and lawfully accomplish what you propose.
Answer Applies to: Pennsylvania
Replied: 10/6/2011
Ashman Law Office | Glen Edward Ashman
He will probably go to jail for his deliberate contempt of court. He may even be charged with kidnapping.
Answer Applies to: Georgia
Replied: 10/6/2011
Law Office of James Lentz | James Lentz
If the father has never asked the Juvenile Court to formalize the visitation agreement, the mother by statute is both the residential and custodial parent. The child must return to the mother.
Answer Applies to: Ohio
Replied: 10/6/2011
Law Offices of Laurie Peters | Laurie Peters
As with all legal questions, the answer is: it depends. The answer would turn on many factors, such as: Are the parents married? If not, were they married? Is there a Judicial determination that the father is. the legal father? The fact that you say the child is on visitation gives the impression that the father does not have custody. When a mother gives birth, there is no legal question as to the child being her child. As to father, it's a whole other legal story. You should meet with a lawyer to find out the proper course of action based on the specific facts involved. The best thing to do if these parents have been working well together is for the parents to discuss what is best for the child.
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 10/6/2011
John E. Kirchner, Attorney at Law | John Kirchner
Quite possibly yes. Because unless there is a court order saying what your rights are, you really don't have specific rights or authority. So, it isn't possible to predict what law enforcement authorities might do under any particular fact situation.
Answer Applies to: Colorado
Replied: 10/6/2011
Law Offices of Steven A. Hemmat | Steven A. Hemmat
A child cannot determine where he or she lives; that decision can be made only between the parents and if they cannot agree, by a court with proper jurisdiction. I suggest consulting with an experienced attorney about all of the circumstances, and to commence legal action to establish a parenting plan and residential schedule.
Answer Applies to: Washington
Replied: 10/6/2011
Law Offices of Arlene D. Kock | Arlene D. Kock
To protect both you and the child ,you should get court orders establishing the custody plan.
Answer Applies to: California
Replied: 10/28/2011
Lana Panagoulia Law, PLLC | Lana Panagoulia
Dear Subscriber, Whether you would be charged depends upon how law enforcement would interpret the Michigan Parental Kidnapping Statute, MCL 750.350a. Reading the statute, you will note it only applies when there is an "order" or other directive from the court regarding custody.
Answer Applies to: Michigan
Replied: 10/6/2011
Law Office Of Jody A. Miller | Jody A. Miller
If the parents were never married and the father has not filed a petition to legitimate the child and get custody and visitation rights, then the father has no legal right to keep the child and the mother has every legal right to demand the return of the child. It may not be kidnapping in the criminal sense, but the father does not have any rights if he's not legitimated the child and been awarded custodial rights, so the father can be in a very precarious legal position if he keeps the child over the objection of the mother. The father needs to see a lawyer about filing a petition for legitimation and custody (and might have to explain why he did not assert these rights until now).
Answer Applies to: Georgia
Replied: 10/6/2011
Glenn E. Tanner | Glenn E. Tanner
The child doesn't get to choose where he/she lives until he/she is an adult. If there is no court order, your rights are the same as Mom's in Washington
Answer Applies to: Washington
Replied: 10/28/2011
The Davies Law Firm, P.A. | Robert F. Davies, Esq.
You need to sit down with a good divorce attorney and get some advice. There are some big issues here. I can help you with this. Give me a call, make an appointment to come see me, and let's get moving on this for you. No charge for the telephone call and no charge for the first office visit hank you.
Answer Applies to: New Jersey
Replied: 10/6/2011
























